September 2010 – Page 4 – Moore-Mays Genealogy

Mystery Monday: Alma Lycett

Posted on 06-Sep-2010 by Kathleen

I have a huge series of photos that look to be Llewellyn and some friends on a trip. This could coincide with the travel places in the front of her diary, or it could be a whole other time. After discussing it with my Aunts, they said most likely it was a Church trip. That makes the most sense to me also. This picture is a little different from my usual Mystery Monday photos. I know who this is. Her name is Alma Lycett. I know this because it was written on the back of the photo and I made sure to label the file when I scanned it. A quick census search shows the closest match in age and name is Alma M Lycett, who lived in Norwalk, Connecticut. Llewellyn’s travel list shows her visiting Middletown, New Haven and Hartford Connecticut in July of 1923. Interesting.

I’m really putting this photo up for anyone who may be searching for Alma someday. Hopefully I’ve used the right keywords to bring someone here.

Mystery Monday is an ongoing series of photos I’m posting that have some kind of mystery attached to them.

Surname Saturday: Redford

Posted on 04-Sep-2010 by Kathleen

I’m almost finished highlighting the surnames on my father’s side of the family!

Where does the Redford name originate from?

My Redford line came over from England about 1870 or 1871. I haven’t found them in any passenger lists yet but I haven’t looked very hard yet either. Once they got to America they settled in Essex County, New Jersey.

Did the Redfords stay in New Jersey?

For the most part, yes. There were quite a few that moved to California.

Overview of the Redford Family

Father: Samuel Redford (about 1843 – 28 Sep 1897[1. Records of Births, Marriages, and Deaths of New Jersey, 1848-1900, v51 p277] ).

Mother: Francis W Travis (about 1841 – ? )

Children

William Redford ( Jun 1869 – ? )
Herbert Redford (14 Nov 1872 – 11 Sep 1940 [2. California Death Certificate]) My 2nd Great Grandfather
Sarah E Redford (07 Oct 1874 – 18 Apr 1959 [3. California Death Index])
Samuel Redford (about 1877 – 30 Sep 1877 [4. Records of Births, Marriages, and Deaths of New Jersey, 1848-1900, v BE p197])
Lillian L Redford (23 Apr 1879 – 07 Dec 1958 [4. California Death Index])
? Redford (03 Aug 1882 – 1882 [5. Records of Births, Marriages, and Deaths of New Jersey, 1848-1900, film 494195])

Of all the children William and Herbert were the only ones to have children that I know of. William’s son Harry William Redford (01 Aug 1894 – 17 Nov 1979[6. California Death Index]), moved to Los Angeles and was living with Sarah, her husband, and Francis in 1920. In 1930, he was married and living in a house with his wife. I am unsure yet if they had children.

Herbert Redford would marry Sarah Ann (Sadie) Sutcliffe and have 4 children (Clifford, Howard, Edith, and Lilian). Herbert’s family stayed in Essex County, New Jersey. Herbert on the other hand, moved to Los Angeles around 1925. I think it was either right before or right after Sadie’s death. I haven’t found a death record for her yet.

Records to get for the Redfords

Birth Record and Death Record for Clifford Herbert Redford (my Great Grandfather)
Birth and Marriage Record for Herbert Redford (my 2nd Great Grandfather)

Redford Links

Sources

Thank You Footnote!

Posted on 03-Sep-2010 by Kathleen

Just wanted to take a minute to post this

On Wednesday, I posted about the things I’d learned from the first half of my 7 day free trial with Footnote.com. I spent all week getting up early and scouring their records so I could really get the most out of my free trial. I kept notes in a draft here, so that I could post the recap halfway through (It was honestly my plan all along). It really was a great experience! There was an overwhelming response from that post. I’m so glad that people found it informative or entertaining in some way. I have a lot of fun rambling about all my ‘misadventures’ on this blog.

Yesterday afternoon I was informed I’d been given a complimentary membership to Footnote.com for one year! You can’t imagine how it made my day! I am so grateful for their kindness. I never would have been able to afford keeping the membership. I certainly wasn’t expecting anything out of my post, I just wanted people to see how much you can learn from the kind of records I was finding. Some records don’t seem like they can be helpful, like city directories, but they can make all the difference in the world if you know how to utilize them.

So thank you to Footnote.com for making my week so memorable and giving this girl a wonderful gift! I wasn’t going to post about Footnote.com’s generosity but I think they deserve a shoutout for their kindness. So often kindness goes unrewarded in this world, and I always try and let people know when they’ve done something that I really appreciate. Don’t worry about me wasting my year though, I spent half my lazy Friday reading old Chicago newspapers and playing around with the features of the website!

Treasure Chest Thursday: The Original

Posted on 02-Sep-2010 by Kathleen

The last week, I’ve been slowly entering my mother’s side of the family into my new family file. It’s a little slower going because there are more of them than Dad’s side. I also had a master list of birthdays I made at the family reunion last year for Dad’s side. So I was able to put them in quickly and use the source I titled, “2009 Family Reunion Master List”. I’m new to citing Personal Family sources, so I was a bit baffled at first on how to really cite it. Then I realized I was once again over-analyzing something. So I gave the title as stated above, I’m listed as the other, and in the description I wrote that I compiled the list by going around to everyone at the family reunion and getting their birth dates and marriage dates where needed. It turned out to be a big project for me that year!

On my Mom’s side I now have the original copy of the Family Tree. This is the one my Grandma brought when I was in the eighth grade. I ended up photocopying it at my Mom’s work, and I later reproduced it in Excel and re-printed it. In that time though, I think I might have tried to “fix” it. I think things got a little turned around. I’ve decided to no longer use my photocopy version. I am lucky that my Aunt sent Grandma’s copy to Maryland for me.

original-00 — Taylor-Webb Family Tree. This has been missing the letters for as long as I can remember!

This has the most complete list I’ve ever seen of the current Taylor family. I don’t communicate much with this side of the family so I don’t know if I would ever had completed this much of it without Grandma’s tree.

original-01 — Taylor-Webb Family Tree. Page 2A.

It’s a great resource for quite a few generations back. If you can see, Reuben Vincent Webb is listed as Family Member 2-1 in this tree. This tree counts forward from the earliest known Webb relative. So Reuben is actually my 2nd Great Grand Uncle. It’s his sister Mollie Jane Webb who marries into the Taylor family. My index number in this tree is listed as 6-54. Just to show you how it counts forward in time.

What my photocopy version was missing is what you see above. I was in 8th grade around 1997. My Grandmother didn’t pass away until January 2005. So in that time, not only had I been making changes to the family tree, so had my Grandmother! I found little handwritten notes all over the tree. Notes that weren’t there in 1997 when we photocopied it.

original-03 — Taylor-Webb Family Tree. Living person information blurred for privacy.

Not only did I find notes in my Grandma’s handwriting, there were notes from another person too! This could have been from my Aunt. It could have been from someone who was just visiting and they were discussing the tree. It doesn’t really matter, what I do know is that even though this tree has some errors in it, it’s a wealth of information in other ways.

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Things I’ve Learned

Posted on 01-Sep-2010 by Kathleen

I am halfway through a 7 day free trial with Footnote.com. I’m trying to make the most of the collections that aren’t free since I can’t afford right now to have a second subscription website. These are the things I’ve learned so far:

City Directories aka The reason I get up early every morning this week.

William Wallace Love was not still living in Newark at the time of his wife’s death in 1890. They had to have moved to Roseland at the time.
I have listings for William W Love, grocer, for 1875 through 1884.
Some years there is a listing for Love Bros grocery. There was never an ad, but that would have been interesting!
William H Moore was not listed in Brooklyn in 1865. His daughter is born in New York in 1865, so they must have lived in another borough before their move to Chicago.
William H Moore has always been very consistent with the use of his middle initial. This is made funnier because I know how insistent my Dad is on using his. They wouldn’t have to do that if they’d stop naming their boys William! 🙂
William H Moore lived at 56 Foster for the majority of his time in Chicago, which was from 1866 to 1870.
I couldn’t find a listing for him in 1871 Chicago. This could be why Cook County couldn’t find a birth record for Robert James Moore in 1871. Maybe they moved out of the city? I’m going to try lining up his location with the Chicago fire and see if he would have been effected, though now I see he might have already left Chicago.

learning-01 — William H Moore, 1869. Chicago.

Military Records

I was able to find out what happened to Marguerite Wambough’s husband, Lt. Frank A Greene. I found a newspaper article on him and talk about it in this post.
I was able to get a much clearer copy of Bartholomew Taylor’s Revolutionary War Pension Request, which I transcribed here.